Fadi Alzaben, Counselor of the Diplomatic Mission of Palestine answers the questions of Jornal Económico:
Fadi Alzaben, Counselor of the Diplomatic Mission of Palestine answers the questions of Jornal Económico:
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Nabil Abuznaid: “They can swallow Palestine, but they will not digest it”
Jornal de Notícias 09-03-2017
The memory is of the 1960s and the store where Nabil Abuznaid went with his mother to buy the school uniform in the heart of Hebron. Today, he represents in Portugal the country that, in the legal eyes of the world, does not exist.
Today, he cannot take his children to that central street and show them that memory. He is not allowed to enter there, even though it is an internationally recognized Palestinian territory. Territory, not state. There is an Israeli settlement. Hope in the UN? If it did not depend on Trump’s dollars …
The opening of the United States Embassy in Jerusalem was confirmed for May. Can it ruin the Israeli-Palestinian dialogue?
If at the time there is some dialogue left to ruin … In my perspective it is already ruined. That will just put salt in the wound. On that day, the Palestinians will witness a second “naqba” (“catastrophe”, as the Palestinian exodus of 1947-48 was called) in the city we believe should be the capital of Palestine, for which we have fought all these years. It will be a sad day, a black day for humanity, for politicians, for the peace camp, even for the United States, a country built on the right to self-determination and now legalizing occupation. East Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and continues to be considered by the international community as an occupied territory. And now (the American president) Donald Trump comes to reward the occupant and legalize the occupation saying: enjoy, it is yours. It will be a sad day for all those concerned with peace, international law and for all people except a few dozen such as (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu and company, who are organizing celebrations.
Trump’s decision encouraged the Palestinian Authority to reject the US as exclusive mediators in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Who will be the right mediator?
We are not talking about who, but the principles by which he rules. If you want to be fair, we do not care where you come from. It is not about replacing the US, but about finding the just mediator who can really bring peace. How a mediator can bring peace says: Jerusalem is out of the discussion and I give it to one side. Who gave you authority for this? What right is it that a real estate magnate who sells towers and land in New York must give up my land – Jerusalem-East is almost all Palestinian and of Palestinian cultural heritage. We seek an honest mediator, but also have real influence. We look at Europe, for countries like France, for the whole world. Because this is a conflict that affects the whole world. If you look at the vote (from the resolution rejecting the transfer of the US Embassy to Jerusalem) at the United Nations, the United States tried to use money to influence the vote. Not only have they taken a stand as they want to drag the world behind them. Who is affected? Poor countries that suffer the most. Like Guatemala, a poor country that decided that it will do the same as the US.
Looking at Syria, the UN seems to reveal a lack of power to intervene. Was it worth the leader of the Palestinian Authority to go to New York for intermediation?
Why not go where we can still go? We have to get on the podium where the international community joins. We tried in 1974, when Yasser Arafat went to the UN and said, “We have the weapon and the branch of the olive tree: do not let the branch of the olive tree fall from my hand, let us work for peace.” The international community has not done much: since 1974, what happened between the Israelis and the Palestinians was bloodshed. Now we go back there and say, “Please, let us take this peace process forward.” We are trying. What else can we do? And look at the US war against us for going to international organizations, which is where you go when there are conflicts. When we went to the International Criminal Court we were punished, when we went to UNESCO, UNESCO was punished. We cannot go to any international organization because there are financial threats from Washington. We hope that (UN Secretary-General) António Guterres, who knows who the Palestinians are, can do something. But there is also pressure on him and the UN, with threats of funding cuts. We do not realize why it is that when it comes to Palestine, the US thinks differently.
With the whole world together in the chaos of Syria, Israel annoying Iran, Netanyahu pondering to anticipate elections to legitimize himself on accusations of corruption, etc., aren’t you afraid that the Palestinian cause is being lost in the foam of they days?
The Palestinian cause will always be important. Wherever I go, any city, country, I see initiatives in support of Palestine, 70 to 80 percent of the world’s people are on the side of Palestine. It has to do with justice, as it did with apartheid in South Africa. The cause cannot be swept under the rug. When Israel occupied 78 percent of Palestine and 28 percent (the West Bank and Gaza) came under the responsibility of Jordan and Egypt, Israeli leaders said: “Great, Palestine no longer exists on the map!” They think they can swallow Palestine. But they will never digest it.
The truth is that, across the West Bank, it is increasingly difficult to perceive Palestine as a territory. There are checkpoints, the roads are closed to the Palestinians …
The occupation is not easy. It not only controls the land but also destroys the culture. By preventing me from going to Hebron they are robbing me my childhood. But they will not rob me of hope and determination. I will continue to resist. And I can see the victory of the Palestinians. We have a poet, Mahmoud Darwish, who says Palestinians have two options: victory or victory.
How many generations will it take to witness this victory?
I hope not much more. I leave a message to the international community: you must not leave us alone, you must fight with us. As Desmond Tutu used to say, to see oppression and to think that it is nothing with us is to align with the oppressor. It is the responsibility of the international community to help make our children free. Why do we have to live our lives under the threat of guns, why do our mothers have to weep their children in prison – we have more than 7,000 people detained in Israel. For what? Wanting to live well in the place where they were born. We are not born slaves. We were born to be free like the rest of the world, but we have to fight for it. We are barred from traveling from one city to another, barred even from burying the dead. In 70 years, we have not witnessed a single day of justice. We need the world to stand up for us.
Is it possible to imagine advances with Netanyahu?
Netanyahu plays the game well. And he found a partner who encourages his behavior. Since Trump’s decision on the embassy, he is trying to implement Israeli law in East Jerusalem and expel the Palestinians from there. That is why it is time for the international community to recognize the state of Palestine and tell Netanyahu: “This land is internationally recognized, it is occupied, and it is Palestinian territory, so stay away from it.” International shyness only encourages him to continue with the settlement policy. Why should he stop? I ask the International community if you have not yet realized that criticizing Netanyahu is not the right medicine? It is time for the world to assume that it wants to save the two-state solution and say to Netanyahu it is enough.
Do you think Ahed Tamimi, the 16-year-old young woman detained after being filmed kicking Israeli soldiers, could become the new symbol of Palestinian resistance?
It may, but we have so many symbols of these ..
She had “luck” …
For being alive.
Yes, but also by the international projection that her image gained.
And how does that image benefit her in prison? She can be a symbol, just like any Palestinian mother can be, her mother, has two children in jail and is alone … Believe me, I could write a book about each of the Palestinian families. Tamimi appeared on television and became known, but there are so many young Palestinians no one has heard of: they were killed in the dark, buried in secret. This must stop. Why do we have to leave the house in the morning with the anxiety of not knowing if we will be back at the end of the day, living worried about being late to school because of security checks, or not being able to harvest our olives. Why do not we have the right to have a land that we can call ours? What harm have we done? What happened to the Jews in the Holocaust was a crime against humanity, but why do the Palestinians have to pay for it? We do not want to erase Israel from the map. We want to live as neighbors, with good neighborly relations.
You came from Holland to Portugal. You were in Washington before. Does the way the Palestinian cause look differ from country to country?
Much. The Netherlands is considered the second pro-Israel nation in Europe, after the Czech Republic. It was a difficult mission, but interesting because of the effort to try to change attitudes and opinions. Here, the people are very friendly, but I feel they are not very political.
I figure they have their own problems. And I feel that youth is less involved in international politics – I’ve never been contacted by universities, nor sought for information, lectures, nothing. In Washington and the Netherlands, it was the students who made the difference. They influence politics a lot. The Palestinian question should be important to any student interested in international law, peace and democracy.
O embaixador da Palestina em Portugal, Nabil Abuznaid, disse hoje à agência Lusa que o secretário-geral das Nações Unidas (ONU), António Guterres, está refém do Presidente dos Estados Unidos na questão do processo de paz israelo-palestiniano.
Em declarações no final da sessão pública de solidariedade para com a Palestina organizada no Porto pelo Conselho Português para a Paz e Cooperação (CPPC), Nabil Abuznaid acusou ainda Donald Trump de ter “destruído a esperança em torno da discussão do processo de paz”.
Questionado sobre se a Palestina sentiu melhorias com a chegada do português à liderança da ONU, o embaixador respondeu que “não trouxe nada de novo ao povo palestiniano”, justificando-o pelo facto de o antigo primeiro-ministro de Portugal “estar refém de Donald Trump”.
“A ONU sente a ameaça dos Estados Unidos, que exerce um domínio amplo, com Trump a ameaçar publicamente que quem não votar de acordo com os EUA sofrerá as consequências”, repudiou Nabil Abuznaid.
Considerando que o líder norte-americano é um “homem sem visão para a paz”, argumentou que se ele “continuar a espalhar tensão por todo o mundo como faz na Coreia do Norte, pode tornar-se num senhor da guerra”, traçando um paralelismo entre o antigo Presidente Barack Obama que “tentou conter os países” e a “vontade de dominá-los” de Trump.
“Ele pensa que pode fazê-lo da mesma forma com que com o seu dinheiro compra tudo”, disse do Presidente norte-americano Abuznaid, considerando que este “deveria conduzir o processo de paz e não o de mudança de lugar das embaixadas”, numa alusão à mudança da representação diplomática dos EUA para Jerusalém decidida por Trump.
E acrescentou: “os israelitas podem celebrar hoje a mudança das embaixadas para Jerusalém mas um dia verão que foi um processo estúpido e vão sofrer por causa disso”.
Artigo de Opinião – Embaixador Nabil Abuznaid
A última decisão, a do reconhecimento de Jerusalém como capital de Israel, é extremamente perigosa, contradiz com a Lei Internacional e destrói a esperança de paz. Trump ofereceu o que não lhe pertence, ignorando o facto de que Jerusalém não é um dos estados norte-americanos, muito menos uma das suas torres. A decisão de Trump, não só legitima a ocupação, especialmente da cidade de Jerusalém ocupada em 1967, como também contradiz com os próprios princípios norte-americanos que apelam ao direito dos povos na autodeterminação, algo que foi defendido pelo Presidente Wilson. Acredito que os palestinianos não são uma excepção e fazem parte destes povos que aspiram pela sua independência.
O mundo acredita que a solução deste conflito será estabelecer Jerusalém, a cidade da paz e o berço das três religiões monoteístas, como capital dos dois Estados. Como tal, a resposta a esta decisão foi absolutamente clara, o mundo reagiu contra, até porque a decisão de Trump pode vir a mudar o conflito de político para religioso, o que é muito perigoso. Parece-me impossível que o mundo inteiro esteja errado e Trump certo.
Os conflitos são causados pelos seres humanos e hão-de ser resolvidos pelos mesmos. Não há conflito sem solução, e o conflicto palestino-israelita não é excepção. E apesar da ocupação e da injustiça, o povo palestiniano acredita na paz, por isso mesmo pensou em algumas soluções. No início da ocupação, o povo palestiniano sugeriu a solução de um Estado laico, onde viveriam muçulmanos, cristãos e judeus, entre outros, sob uma lei, onde todos seriam iguais nos seus direitos e deveres, solução esta designada como a solução de um Estado. Esta solução poderia ser a melhor e mais justa, mas, infelizmente, foi recusada, por completo, pelo lado israelita.
Após a rejeição da solução previamente indicada, surgiu então a solução de dois Estados, o Estado da Palestina viveria ao lado do Estado de Israel nos territórios ocupados em 1967 (Gaza e Cisjordânia, incluindo Jerusalém Oriental). Segundo esta, o Estado da Palestina iria ser estabelecido em apenas 22% da Palestina Histórica enquanto Israel ficaria com 78%, um grande sacrifício que a parte palestiniana está disposta a assumir em nome da paz. No seguimento desta solução de dois Estados, surgiu a iniciativa árabe em 2002, que consistia em: se Israel se retirar dos territórios árabes ocupados em 1967, 57 países árabes e muçulmanos não irão apenas reconhecer Israel, como também irão normalizar as relações com este Estado. O que significaria que Israel iria hastear a sua bandeira em 57 capitais árabes e muçulmanas, caso aceitasse este projecto de paz. Esta iniciativa constituiria uma grande contribuição para apoiar todo o processo de paz. Infelizmente, mais uma vez, Israel continua a recusar a solução de dois Estados baseada na legitimidade internacional e no consenso internacional, optando por uma terceira solução.
A terceira solução que Israel prefere é a continuação do statu quo, ou seja, Israel quer a paz e também, ao mesmo tempo, quer ocupar os territórios palestinianos. Isto é flagrante na política israelita diária de confiscação de território, construção de colonatos e mudança dos factos na terra. O custo desta solução é mínimo para Israel, mesmo com a rejeição desta política pela comunidade internacional inteira. A política de colonização é condenada, diariamente, pelos diferentes países do mundo, pois viola as leis internacionais e o processo da paz. Todavia, Netanyahu sorri e pensa: os palestinianos podem implorar por ajuda, a Europa e o mundo podem condenar à vontade, nas formas mais absolutas, que eu irei continuar a construir mais colonatos.
É a hora de perceber que a condenação da política israelita é um medicamento que não serve para a cura, nem muda as posições políticas israelitas. É a hora de ir mais além, pensar e agir em algo que trave efetiva e decisivamente esta política, salvando a solução de dois Estados. Se não for agora, não será possível nunca mais. O povo palestiniano acredita e almeja que a paz se realize através da justiça e não através da confiscação de terra, da construção de muros, da opressão, em resumo, através da injustiça.
Finalmente, e mesmo depois de tudo isto, o mundo pede aos palestinianos para terem paciência, esperando que seja o oprimido a aguentar, ainda mais, a opressão. Não acham que a paciência do povo palestiniano tem limites e que se esgotou depois de 70 anos de injustiças? Não acham que já está na altura de o povo palestiniano viver em liberdade e com dignidade no seu Estado da Palestina?
Termino com o que o líder negro, lutador pela paz e justiça, Martin Luther King disse: “Uma injustiça em qualquer lugar é uma ameaça à justiça em todos os lugares.”
his publication outlines mass incarceration, relevant Israeli military orders, and highlights this oppressive system with personal stories of those affected by these policies. It is an opportunity for those whose siblings, children, and partners – who are as much the target of this policy as their incarcerated loved ones – to share their experiences so that the reality of the Palestinian prisoner may be seen for what it is: the continued suppression of a people’s legitimate quest for self-determination and dignity.
We strongly condemn the illegitimate closure of the Mapping and Geographic Information Systems Department of the Arab Studies Society and the illegal detention of Mr. Khalil Tufakji this morning in Occupied East Jerusalem. Mr. Tufakji is a distinguished scholar from Jerusalem and the Director of this academic department within the previously forcibly sealed off Orient House in the heart of Occupied East Jerusalem.
Mr. Tufakji, who has served on several initiatives related to the Middle East Peace Process, was detained by Israeli occupying forces during a raid on their office in Jerusalem this morning. Israeli occupying forces have also seized the office documents, computers, and equipment.
This provocative act by the Israeli occupying forces is a reminder of Israel’s ongoing campaign to deprive Palestinians in Occupied East Jerusalem, the capital of the State of Palestine, of any voice, of its national institutions and organizations, in an effort to erase any Palestinian presence in the city.
Israel, the occupying power, continues to violate its obligations under signed agreements, as well as of its commitments vis-à-vis the international community. More than 20 Palestinian institutions in East Jerusalem, including notably the Orient House and the Chamber of Commerce, remain forcibly closed by Israeli occupying orders and raids since 2001, in violation of international law.
Many United Nations resolutions and statements call upon Israel to immediately reopen all Palestinian institutions in Occupied East Jerusalem. This was established in the UNSC Resolution 476, which states, “All legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying power, which purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem have no legal validity and constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention (…) and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East”.
Systematic Israeli policies against a Palestinian presence in Occupied East Jerusalem aim to bury the two-state solution, consolidate Israel’s Apartheid regime in the occupied city, as well as in the rest of occupied Palestine, and aim to create a Palestinian demographic minority. This serious escalation demands the international community to urgently take concrete measures to reopen Palestinian institutions in Occupied East Jerusalem, in line with international law and UN resolutions, is overdue. In particular, we call upon the European Union to fully and immediately implement the recommendations of its Heads of Missions’ report on Jerusalem.
Issued by the Diplomatic Mission of Palestine in Portugal
Tomorrow marks the most inhumane massacre perpetrated by a Jewish terrorist “Baruch Goldstein”.
On February 25 1994, a US-born Israeli military medical doctor, walked into the Ibrahimi
Mosque in Hebron armed with a Galil assault rifle. It was early morning during the holy month of Ramadan, and hundreds of Palestinians were crammed inside, bowed in prayer. Baruch Goldstein, who had immigrated to Israel from North America in 1983, lived in the Kiryat Arba (settlement on the outskirts of Hebron). As worshippers kneeled, Goldstein opened fire. He reloaded his gun at least once, continuing his barrage for as long as possible before finally being overpowered and eventually beaten to death.
By the time he was stopped, 29 worshippers were killed, and more than a hundred had been injured.
The Israeli government immediately released a statement condemning the act and stating that Goldstein acted alone and was psychologically disturbed. The massacre was widely reported in the international media – and been added to dozens more of the Israeli massacres against the indigenous people of Historic Palestine “the Palestinians”. Words of condemnation came from the whole world including Israel but no action as if Israel is licensed to kill with impunity. The 29 people killed inside the mosque were not the only “martyrs” that day. Locals estimate the final number of deaths at between 50 and 70 – and an estimated 250 were injured over the course of the day. After the initial attack inside the mosque, more Palestinians were killed by the Israeli army during protests outside the mosque, outside Hebron’s Ahli hospital, and even in the local cemetery as the dead were being buried.
Some survivors of the massacre also report that they were shot by a second gunman inside the mosque, and claim that this was a planned attack of which the Israeli military was aware in advance. None here believe the official story of Goldstein acting entirely alone in a fit of madness.
No action had ever been taken, by the Israeli authorities to protect the Palestinians from the illegal Jewish settlers, to the contrary, settlers with the blessings of the Israeli army, erected a shrine for the terrorist Goldstein, inside the settlement, to become a site for pilgrimage for them and their likens.
Ambassador Ajjuri, says “Lack of action by the International Community against such Israeli crime, has encouraged Israel to perpetrate with impunity, massacres and war crimes, two massacres in Qana, Lebanon and four offensives against the Palestinians in Gaza , in the last one in 2014, Israel killed 22000 Palestinians, 517 of them were children”.
He added that for the same reason and in an utter defiance of the International law, Israeli Knesset adopted on the 6th of this month, the so-called “Regularization Bill”, a scheme being presented as “law” with the express purpose of facilitating and authorizing the expropriation, colonization and ultimate de facto annexation of Palestinian land.
The Arab Center for the Advancement of Social Media (7amleh) has published new figures on Israeli incitement towards Arabs and Palestinians on social media in 2016. The research indicates a sharp increase in the number of racist and hateful posts written in Hebrew on social media. It reveals that 60,000 Israeli internet users wrote at least one post containing either racism or hatred towards Arabs and Palestinians. 7amleh identified 675,000 racist or provocative posts against Arabs on social networks, which were uploaded at the rate of one post every 46 seconds throughout 2016. The majority of these posts were on Facebook. The number of posts more than doubled in 2016, rising from 280,00 similar posts in 2015 to 675,000 in 2016.